20081012248 | Dear Haiku Inc...

Some of us who donated to this summer's Haiku Code Drive would like to know what has happened or what will be done with the cash from the failed summer projects... At least one Haiku Code Drive was a complete failure (due to medical reasons) = $2500

Haiku Inc: Please consider donating ~~10%~~ less than 10% of that failed project by filling our Bluetooth Bounty that's ~~$255~~ $157.75 (thanks Matt M.) short of its target.

Oliver Ruiz Dorantes has made consistent commits for his project, and is closing in on completing the Bluetooth Bounty ; due Nov. 1st 2008.

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umccullough said:

These should be brought up on the main mailing list

In any case, I was also thinking about what to do with the "failed student" funds as well, and the only logical and responsible solution I could come up with was to tag those funds for a similar "Code Drive" next year.

I'll certainly start an internal discussion about this shortly to see what the other opinions are.

Perhaps next time we do a donation drive of that type, we should also publish a plan for any additional funds that are raised.

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karl said:

	I think the best choice would be to come up with some options, and then let those who donated the money decide against those options in a poll. That's what we do here. I don't think it should be a decision made behind closed doors, or by Haiku Inc. - but that's just my opinion.
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karl said:

One other thing... In Axel's summary, he says that some of the students were overwhelmed with their projects and didn't have time to complete them, but we'll be looking forward to them completing them in the near future.

That just isn't good enough. Give the students a firm deadline. If they don't complete it by x date, then it's incomplete and the money can be put forth towards something else.

Part of these code drives is having the student complete them so they can put them on their resume. That way, if there's a firm deadline, it's in their best interest to complete the project at hand.

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umccullough said:

I recommend you voice your opinions on the mailing list

Re: Having all Donators decide, that's going to be a bit tricky... First, there were a large number of donations for the code drive, and some donated large amounts, while others donated small amounts (multiple times even)... how would a fair vote be managed?

As for the students not completing their projects, this is something that's out of my hands - and ultimately up to the mentors' discretion. Much as Google relies on their mentors being fair and upfront about the level of completion of the projects, so will Haiku, Inc. be.

Since this is the first time we've attempted this Code Drive, we've likely made some mistakes which we will have to remedy next year

Please, take these discussions to the mailing list, where all those interested will be able to participate in the discussion.

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karl said:

First, there were a large number of donations for the code drive, and some donated large amounts, while others donated small amounts (multiple times even)... how would a fair vote be managed?

Well, in a democracy, when it comes time to vote in an election, you get one vote. The amount of federal taxes you pay doesn't influence the number of votes one gets; I would suspect the same premise would be followed. For the code drive, I think it's more the participation and contribution in the event that should merit your vote; not your pocket book.

With regards to multiple payments, etc. I'm sure you have a record of who payed what and which email it came from.

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Thanks for your response, and yes, it's a learning process.

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leavengood said:

I just want to remind everyone that only about $7500 was actually donated, and the extra $2500 was to come from Haiku, Inc. funds (the idea was to use the GSoC 2008 money.) So the fact that the CUPS HCD project failed does not mean that $2500 will go back into the HCD funds. That was just money Haiku, Inc. was providing to fund another student.

But I agree that if there is a not a total payout of HCD funds equal to what was donated, then the remaining amount should be allocated to funding some kind of developer resource. But the $2500 from Haiku, Inc. will not necessarily be part of that.

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