Comments for Dear Haiku Inc... at http://www.haikuware.com , comment 0 to 6 out of 6 comments http://www.haikuware.com Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:24:29 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.haikuware.com/20081012248/dear-haiku-inc#pc_1217 I just want to remind everyone that only about $7500 was actually donated, and the extra $2500 was to come from Haiku, Inc. funds (the idea was to use the GSoC 2008 money.) So the fact that the CUPS HCD project failed does not mean that $2500 will go back into the HCD funds. That was just money Haiku, Inc. was providing to fund another student. But I agree that if there is a not a total payout of HCD funds equal to what was donated, then the remaining amount should be allocated to funding some kind of developer resource. But the $2500 from Haiku, Inc. will not necessarily be part of that. - leavengood Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:18:36 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/20081012248/dear-haiku-inc#pc_1208 First, there were a large number of donations for the code drive, and some donated large amounts, while others donated small amounts (multiple times even)... how would a fair vote be managed? Well, in a democracy, when it comes time to vote in an election, you get one vote. The amount of federal taxes you pay doesn't influence the number of votes one gets; I would suspect the same premise would be followed. For the code drive, I think it's more the participation and contribution in the event that should merit your vote; not your pocket book. With regards to multiple payments, etc. I'm sure you have a record of who payed what and which email it came from. ;D Thanks for your response, and yes, it's a learning process. - karl Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:11:42 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/20081012248/dear-haiku-inc#pc_1207 I recommend you voice your opinions on the mailing list :) Re: Having all Donators decide, that's going to be a bit tricky... First, there were a large number of donations for the code drive, and some donated large amounts, while others donated small amounts (multiple times even)... how would a fair vote be managed? As for the students not completing their projects, this is something that's out of my hands - and ultimately up to the mentors' discretion. Much as Google relies on their mentors being fair and upfront about the level of completion of the projects, so will Haiku, Inc. be. Since this is the first time we've attempted this Code Drive, we've likely made some mistakes which we will have to remedy next year :) Please, take these discussions to the mailing list, where all those interested will be able to participate in the discussion. - umccullough Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:57:52 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/20081012248/dear-haiku-inc#pc_1206 One other thing... In Axel's summary, he says that some of the students were overwhelmed with their projects and didn't have time to complete them, but we'll be looking forward to them completing them in the near future. That just isn't good enough. Give the students a firm deadline. If they don't complete it by x date, then it's incomplete and the money can be put forth towards something else. Part of these code drives is having the student complete them so they can put them on their resume. That way, if there's a firm deadline, it's in their best interest to complete the project at hand. - karl Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:51:29 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/20081012248/dear-haiku-inc#pc_1205 I think the best choice would be to come up with some options, and then let those who donated the money decide against those options in a poll. That's what we do here. I don't think it should be a decision made behind closed doors, or by Haiku Inc. - but that's just my opinion. - karl Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:45:00 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/20081012248/dear-haiku-inc#pc_1204 These should be brought up on the main mailing list :) In any case, I was also thinking about what to do with the "failed student" funds as well, and the only logical and responsible solution I could come up with was to tag those funds for a similar "Code Drive" next year. I'll certainly start an internal discussion about this shortly to see what the other opinions are. Perhaps next time we do a donation drive of that type, we should also publish a plan for any additional funds that are raised. - umccullough Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:38:05 +0100