Comments for CUPS Porting Bounty at http://www.haikuware.com , comment 0 to 10 out of 10 comments http://www.haikuware.com Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:04:20 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_563 check my blog for status update ;) - ithamar Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:18:55 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_539 any status updates? - thenerd Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:10:17 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_280 I second thenerd's suggestion ;D - karlvd Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:32:33 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_279 I'm offering my experience with the Print Kit architecture for OpenBeOS/ZETA and CUPS to anyone who wants it, and I would be more then willing to at least design this integration.... My suggestion for this would be to contact vasilis and see what he thinks. Maybe the bounty could be changed to reflect a combined effort to create a native printing system. I'm not expert on printing but if what you are proposing would be better than CUPS I can't see why it wouldn't be a viable alternative to this bounty. - thenerd Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:03:08 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_278 IMHO, the whole 'lets go through Ghostscript' architecture of CUPS is broken for an OS as Haiku. What ZETA did was a printer driver generate postscript, and then use CUPS to output the postscript file to the printer. IT basicly completely bypassed the normal Print Kit architecture. With most printer drivers now being either network printers or usb printers, things get a little more easy. I think it would be much more worthwhile to reuse the foomatic database of printers (which contain supported protocols (postscript,hpcl,etc) and the properties of the printers) as a front end, use native Haiku code for detecting printers (this is actually quite simple for USB printers, will commit a driver for doing that into Haiku soon), and create some printer driver front-ends to drive the GhostScript backends (which IIRC basicly translate drawing operations / bitmaps into the native printer protocol, just like native printer drivers in Haiku/BeOS do). This is obviously a lot more work, but creates a _much_ nicer integration with the core OS, and as a bonus, will make printing _much_ faster too :D I'm offering my experience with the Print Kit architecture for OpenBeOS/ZETA and CUPS to anyone who wants it, and I would be more then willing to at least design this integration.... (My paying job prevents me from actually having enough time to fully implement this) - ithamar Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:59:33 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_264 yes, it would be possible to do it that way. Personally, I would prefer to do much tighter integration, simply because I remember the pains we had with ZETA I don't know exactly how it was done in Zeta but it does sound like it wasn't the best way. Maybe that is something that can be worked on once CUPS has been ported. Mozilla Printing Support was probably too vague, what I meant was to have the ability to print from Mozilla S/W, e.g. Firefox. This would indeed mean writing the code to interface Mozilla's framework with the native 'Print Kit' in BeOS/Haiku. Printing from any application would is most definitely important. IMO I am not so worried about Firefox because I'm really looking forward to Ryan's webkit port and the browser that will hopefully come from that. But none the less Firefox is popular and if it's something that a dev wants to put his/her efforts behind then I'm all for it. - thenerd Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:00:23 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_263 yes, it would be possible to do it that way. Personally, I would prefer to do much tighter integration, simply because I remember the pains we had with ZETA ;) Mozilla Printing Support was probably too vague, what I meant was to have the ability to print from Mozilla S/W, e.g. Firefox. This would indeed mean writing the code to interface Mozilla's framework with the native 'Print Kit' in BeOS/Haiku. - ithamar Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:31:01 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_262 Would it be possible for Haiku to have the same sort of special driver to interface with CUPS? Also, I took a quick look at Mozilla Print Support and I am not 100% sure I understand what it does so I can't really say if it would make a good bounty or not. Is it just a layer that Mozilla products use to interface with the local printing system? - thenerd Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:14:59 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_260 Please be aware that CUPS itself will not be _very_ useful on BeOS/Haiku. You need integration between BeOS/Haiku and CUPS to make it truly useful. E.g. ZETA had a special printer driver that interfaced with CUPS. Hmmm, that reminds me, would Mozilla Print Support on BeOS/Haiku not be a nice bounty too? ;) - ithamar Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:43:44 +0100 http://www.haikuware.com/bounties/cups-porting-bounty#pc_141 I started reviewing the port yesterday and it is going better than I hoped. I am not sure if I can port it fully, but at least I will have documented what is needed to complete the port. If I manage to port it my self, the donation money can be moved to the next bounty. - vasper Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:19:45 +0100